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Ivans TRE or a Bazzazz?

Postby Secondz Away » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:06 am

Im looking for little improvements I can make and I was reading about Ivans TRE's and Bazzazz Timing retard calibrator for the Busa. As i understand it, they essentially trick the ecu into thinking its always in the same gear and remove the limiters placed by the factory in each gear?

Anyone using either of these...thoughts about which one might be better or if its really worth it?

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Re: Ivans TRE or a Bazzazz?

Postby irun123arkansas » Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:14 am

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Re: Ivans TRE or a Bazzazz?

Postby zx9 Nick » Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:45 am

The TRE removes the top speed limiter ( 186 mph)...by making the bike think that its in 5th gear...real simple stuff...the bike is not limited in the other gears..only worth getting if you want to do 190-195 mph and top out the bike...wont make any other improvements as far as performance...the best and cheapest mod if you want more performance not that the BUS needs it is lowered gearing
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Re: Ivans TRE or a Bazzazz?

Postby arkansas » Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:58 am

I used a TRE on my bonneville busa initially. It's supposed to have a smoother throttle response in the lower gears, but it was negligible at best. The two significant things were 1) top gear speed limit was gone and 2) the dash always showed 5th gear.

There is no reason to run a TRE if you use a power commander unless you are only looking to get rid of the speed limit. And if that's all you want, then you should look into flashing your ECU which gives you power commander tuning, drops the speed limit, and enables rev limit adjustments. I eventually dropped my PC3, TRE, etc and went this route when I got serious at Bonneville. I was nervous about complexity is why I didn't go that route to begin with, but realized after the switch that it was a non-issue.

I'm not personally familiar with the Bazaaz unit, but I know they do offer some very quality components.

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Re: Ivans TRE or a Bazzazz?

Postby 2Wheeler » Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:24 pm

arkansas wrote:I used a TRE on my bonneville busa initially. It's supposed to have a smoother throttle response in the lower gears, but it was negligible at best. The two significant things were 1) top gear speed limit was gone and 2) the dash always showed 5th gear.

There is no reason to run a TRE if you use a power commander unless you are only looking to get rid of the speed limit. And if that's all you want, then you should look into flashing your ECU which gives you power commander tuning, drops the speed limit, and enables rev limit adjustments. I eventually dropped my PC3, TRE, etc and went this route when I got serious at Bonneville. I was nervous about complexity is why I didn't go that route to begin with, but realized after the switch that it was a non-issue.

I'm not personally familiar with the Bazaaz unit, but I know they do offer some very quality components.

-justin

Good advice right there. TRE is not worht the money. Check out this site. http://www.boostbysmith.com/ecugen2.html All the hardware you need and the software is FREE. You can do amazing things with the ECU in the Busa. I just put a new pipe and PowerCommander V on my Busa. When I get the chance I am going to get a full custom tune with the ECU editor. I can then get rid of the PC V. Here is another link. http://www.suzukihayabusa.org/forum/ind ... oard=124.0. Lots of info on the ECU editor software and hardware needed to use it.
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Re: Ivans TRE or a Bazzazz?

Postby Secondz Away » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:04 pm

awesome...thanks for the info everyone!
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