I gotta say, I'm in shock!

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I gotta say, I'm in shock!

Postby rolleronariver » Thu May 17, 2012 11:55 am

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2012/Casey+retirement

Don't get me wrong, I don't like him. I'm just shocked he's quitting at such a young age.
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Re: I gotta say, I'm in shock!

Postby irun123arkansas » Thu May 17, 2012 12:19 pm

Well at least now Lorenzo will have a chance to win another championship. :biglol
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Postby zx9 Nick » Thu May 17, 2012 1:03 pm

I am going to be nice from now on and not spew any more Stoner hate ( or in very small doses)...since he gave me an early christmas and birtday present...thank you Casey.... :bow
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Postby rockerphotographer » Thu May 17, 2012 1:45 pm

yea Honda's sick of him. They're happy I finally get to step in :)
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Postby Dan » Thu May 17, 2012 2:26 pm

I see Formula 1 or Indy Car in the future for him if this is the case.
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Postby Rub'n » Thu May 17, 2012 4:45 pm

I figure he's bought a horse and headed towards his true calling..........
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Re: I gotta say, I'm in shock!

Postby smileyman » Fri May 18, 2012 10:16 am

Gotta say. Shocking. But nothing about this guy has been normal. He whines, he moans, he wins, he does the improbable. The timing of the announcement is even weird. Season up for grabs, how will it effect his mentality? His teams? The competition? :dunno
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I gotta say, I'm in shock!

Postby svader » Fri May 18, 2012 10:45 am

At first I figured this would be Marquez door opening, but with the current rookie rules I guess not. Maybe somebody will pick up a one year deal with Honda till he's ready. Rossi??
Will Dani even be back with Honda? Gonna be an interesting off year.
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Re: I gotta say, I'm in shock!

Postby Chango » Fri May 18, 2012 11:30 am

svader wrote:At first I figured this would be Marquez door opening, but with the current rookie rules I guess not. Maybe somebody will pick up a one year deal with Honda till he's ready. Rossi??
Will Dani even be back with Honda? Gonna be an interesting off year.


I would rather see Nicky back on the Repsol Honda for a year then head to WSBK for some actual racing.

I'm not biased either.
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Postby smileyman » Fri May 18, 2012 12:50 pm

As long as Repsol writes the checks Dani has a ride at Honda.
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Re: I gotta say, I'm in shock!

Postby smileyman » Fri May 18, 2012 2:12 pm

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/motor ... 6360696992

CASEY Stoner is special, but statistics still rate Mick Doohan as Australia's greatest rider in the premier motorbike category.
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And history will - for now - look more kindly on Stoner's arch rival Valentino Rossi.

But it's a long way to the end of the season - Stoner's last after his shock announcement yesterday - and based on Stoner's early form, his record is only going to improve.

Retiring MotoGP champ Casey Stoner linked with move to V8 Supercars

Stoner has two world MotoGP titles to his credit and is on track for a third after seven years in the sport. Doohan won five championships in 11 years.

The start-win ratio is telling. Stoner has started in 103 races for 35 wins and 62 trips to the podium. That gives the 26-year-old racer a start-to-win ratio of 0.34 and a start-to-podium ratio of 0.6.

Doohan started in 117 500cc GP races for 54 wins and 95 visits to the rostrum. That gives mighty Mick a start-to-win ratio of .46 and a start-to-podium figure of .81.

Stoner has had to contend with one of the leading riders of the modern era. Rossi's MotoGP record sits at 66 wins from 169 starts for a ratio of .39. His podium finishes are just behind Doohan at .73.

Stoner earned a reputation as a crasher in his 2006 debut season, but won a retraction when he piloted the "unrideable" Ducati to the world title in 2007.

A second place the next year to Rossi was followed by a pair of fourth-placed finishes, which were more due to lack of development of the Ducati than to the rider.

The switch to Honda last year brought a second world title. With two of the first three races of the 2012 title fight already under his visor, a solid showing at this weekend's French MotoGP will put the Aussie further in front in the championship.


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Re: I gotta say, I'm in shock!

Postby zx9 Nick » Fri May 18, 2012 3:29 pm

I have argued for years that Doohan was as good as Rossi...the best ever are...Agostini,Doohan,Rossi...who is the greatest its tough to say
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Postby irun123arkansas » Fri May 18, 2012 3:39 pm

zx9 Nick wrote:I have argued for years that Doohan was as good as Rossi...the best ever are...Agostini,Doohan,Rossi...who is the greatest its tough to say


impossible to say. You can't compare different generations as there are too many factors like level of competition, equipment, etc.

If you can Then wilt chamberlain was the best ever, hell he averaged over 50pts per game for a year or more.
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Postby zx9 Nick » Fri May 18, 2012 3:43 pm

Yup cant forget Kareem,Oscar robertson,Bill Russell, Larry legend...i hate it when somebody says that somebody is the greatest in their sport...maybe...you can argue all day long...like you said diffrent generations,rules...etc
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Postby smileyman » Fri May 18, 2012 4:49 pm

zx9 Nick wrote:I have argued for years that Doohan was as good as Rossi...the best ever are...Agostini,Doohan,Rossi...who is the greatest its tough to say



Doohan? Rossi? What do the greats have in common? Across generations?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Burgess

Jeremy Burgess (16 April 1953 in Adelaide Hills, South Australia), is an Australian motorcycle racing chief engineer, having worked with three world champions: Wayne Gardner, Mick Doohan and Valentino Rossi.[1] He was also a mechanic on Freddie Spencer's team when Spencer won the 500cc World title in 1985. Burgess learned his GP skills from the legendary American crew chiefs, George Vukmanovich and Erv Kanemoto for whom he worked in his early years.

Winning machines prepared by Burgess range from the Suzukis of Randy Mamola to the Hondas of Ron Haslam, Freddie Spencer, Wayne Gardner, Mick Doohan and Valentino Rossi to the Yamaha of Valentino Rossi. Since July 1980, these riders have won 157 GP/MotoGP races (as at 2 November 2009) and a total of fourteen World Championships on motorcycles that "JB" has either prepared himself or whose preparation he has overseen as crew chief. Burgess's machinery have achieved over 280 podium finishes.

1986, Burgess was promoted to crew chief of fellow Australian Wayne Gardner, who won the title the following year (1987). In 1989, Burgess became crew chief to Mick Doohan, who went on to win Premier World Championships in five successive years between 1994 and 1998.After Doohan retired in 1999 due to injuries, Burgess was thinking about quitting; he had witnessed too many major crashes and allegedly didn't want to be a part of it any more. But when Valentino Rossi was given the opportunity to race with Honda, he said the only way Honda would get him was if Burgess was his engineer.[4] Burgess became crew chief to Rossi in what was Rossi's debut year riding in the premier (500cc) class, and helped mastermind Rossi’s seven world titles (five in successive years from 2001 to 2005) in 500cc/MotoGP.

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